tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23241716.post684344452907009708..comments2023-07-09T11:23:36.355-04:00Comments on On Baseball & The Reds: The Linebrink Dealjinazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07697776280178146413noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23241716.post-91801819604934381852007-07-27T16:59:00.000-04:002007-07-27T16:59:00.000-04:00Also, the players are ranked in groups as follows:...Also, the players are ranked in groups as follows:<BR/><BR/>• [1B, DH, OF]<BR/>• [2B, SS, 3B]<BR/>• [C]<BR/>• [SP]<BR/>• [RP]<BR/><BR/>No separate category for middle relief and closers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23241716.post-55757255706507242972007-07-27T16:51:00.000-04:002007-07-27T16:51:00.000-04:00Aha - I didn't know that the new CBA revised the p...Aha - I didn't know that the new CBA revised the percentages. At least they didn't take compensation picks entirely out, as was first rumoured.<BR/><BR/>Elias is very secretive about all that stuff, but I'd think that someone at MLB would be privy to those classified formulae. I think that making it public would only lead to criticism from people like us on how dumb the formulae are. Incidentally, they do release the result of the formula - just a raw number - for each free agent. So you can get an idea of how close a player is to the next group above and/or below.<BR/><BR/>The Elias list is released in late October, from what I have read.<BR/><BR/>I have found this information: "the Elias system is something agreed on by MLB and the PA. They just have Elias calculate them." And Nationals blog <A HREF="http://dcbb.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Capitol Punishment</A> analyzing the concept of signing Dmitri Young says of Elias' formula, "they consider Plate Appearances, Batting Average, On-Base %, HR and RBI. They weigh each of those factors for what the player has done over the previous two seasons. I've heard that they pro-rate some of those stats for time missed on the DL, but I can't find any actual confirmation of that."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23241716.post-14643822100429582412007-07-27T15:13:00.000-04:002007-07-27T15:13:00.000-04:00Ya got me. :) Maybe they have separate categories...Ya got me. :) Maybe they have separate categories for closers and middle relievers?<BR/><BR/>BTW, do you have any sources on how free agents are determined, and when? I was looking for that recently, and all I've found is that class A free agents are in the top 20%, and class B are in the 20-40% (as of the new CBA--it used to be 30%).<BR/><BR/>It's a bit strange to me that MLB would allow such a big decision (where a free agent ranks) to be conducted behind closed doors by Elias. Is it just secret to the public, or is also kept from MLB?<BR/>-jjinazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07697776280178146413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23241716.post-52811572544957558542007-07-27T05:44:00.000-04:002007-07-27T05:44:00.000-04:00How can they know that what class free agent Lineb...How can they know that what class free agent Linebrink is? The season isn't over, and the class is calculated in October based on performance over the two previous seasons. Elias keeps their formulae a secret, but the one used for position players is reportedly based on less enlightened stats like RBI and hits, etc. I have to believe that saves are a big part of the formula for relievers, and if so Linebrink would have a tough time being ranked as a class A, in the top 30% of relievers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com